Jana Kramer has known as a Swiftie at times, but her 8-year-old daughter, Jolie, isn’t on the Taylor Swift bandwagon.
“Jolie is now not a fan, which is so attention-grabbing, as a result of I didn’t know this,” Kramer, 40, said all the way through the Sunday, April 28, episode of her “Whine Down” podcast.
Kramer, who is a singer herself, recalled Jolie being at a birthday celebration and asking, “Mom, is it OK that I don’t like Taylor Swift?”
The actress remembered thinking it used to be “crazy” that the topic never came up and that she hadn’t told Jolie it’s high-quality to have your own favorites.
“I used to be like, ‘Honey, 1,000 percent you'll be able to like whoever you like,’” Kramer endured. She reminded Jolie that “just because she’s tremendous famous and everybody loves her does now not imply it's important to love her too.”
Kramer, who shares Jolie and son Jace, 5, with ex-husband Mark Caussin, confessed that she felt the similar means about The Beatles phenomenon. (Kramer is additionally the mum of son Roman, whom she welcomed with fiancé Allan Russell in November 2023.)
“I didn’t like The Beatles as a result of everybody liked The Beatles. I all the time kinda go opposite,” Kramer advised her cohosts and listeners.
When it comes to Swift, 34, Kramer defined that she goes thru levels. “Allan always makes fun of me, he’s like, ‘You’re obsessive about Taylor Swift,’” she stated. “I do like some of her songs. One hundred %. I’m now not going to disclaim that.”
Kramer admitted she wasn’t the most important fan of Swift’s latest The Tortured Poets Department double album, but her degree presence is undeniable.
“I think she’s an insane entertainer. … She’s very calculated,” she stated of Swift, who dropped TTPD earlier this month. “I don’t love the new album. I kinda were given somewhat bored. I nonetheless respect her as an artist.”
The One Tree Hill alum pointed to Swift’s diss track about Kim Kardashian called “thanK you aIMee” as one of her least favorites.
“I simply suppose she’s higher than that to have a dig track,” Kramer confessed, regarding Swift’s alleged lyrics about her past feud with Kardashian, 43, which began with Kardashian backing her now ex-husband Kanye West after he publicly humiliated Swift.
Some of Swift’s lyrics examine Kardashian a.k.a. “Aimee” to a high school bully after the reality famous person sided with West, 46, and hinted that Swift was a snake. In her new tune, Swift sings about anyone who “threatens to push me down the steps” and laughed at “every child step I’d take” to try and succeed.
“Taylor has moved on and is not having a look back,” a source exclusively told Us Weekly previous this month in regards to the diss observe. “The tune is her final word.”
Kardashian and Swift were at odds since she allegedly launched an illegally recorded dialog between Swift and West. The recording used to be about West’s 2016 music “Famous,” wherein he claims he made “that complain famous” after interrupting Swift’s MTV VMAs speech years prior.
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Swift later accused Kardashian of no longer liberating the overall model of the telephone dialog, which Swift claimed proved she never signed off on West the use of her identify or tale in his monitor.
“A lot of other folks jumped on Kim’s bandwagon. I will best imagine how that affected Taylor,” Kramer stated on Sunday, noting that Swift bringing the drama to the surface felt useless. “Now, I think like Taylor is larger of a star. Why carry it again up once more? You’ve lessened your power a bit of bit. [That] is how I understand it.”
Kramer, in the meantime, admitted that many artists keep going again to trauma to produce hit songs. “I wrote one million cheating songs,” she said, referring to her ex-husband’s infidelity and their eventual divorce in 2021.
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